ramrajone I know its a bit old now, but thats not the issue. I have versions 5.6, 7.2,7.3, and 7.4 installed. 5.6 through 7.3 work ( 5.6 up until 7.0 was required) I'm just going to leave it on 7.3. I created a test server and loaded 7.4 only and it OS ticket loads no issue. My guess is something with all the versions on one system arent playing nice in some way. I'm just going to leave it on 7.3 until I have to go to 7.4.